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A fascinating article about Freemasons & Catholics from Pillar Catholic

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when catholics could be masons by nico fassino at pillar catholic

For hundreds of years, the Catholic Church has prohibited its members from joining Masonic lodges.

Freemasonry has been denounced by numerous popes, beginning with Pope Clement XII in 1738, on the grounds that it promotes religious indifferentism.

But after the Second Vatican Council, many Catholics around the world suddenly became confused about whether it was permissible for Catholics to become Masons. 

From the Catholic Transcript (newspaper of the Archdiocese of Hartford), September 27, 1974, page 3. Scan via Catholic News Archive, public domain.

In fact, there was a seven-year stretch in the 1970s when the English-speaking Catholic world was taught by its bishops that, although it was not encouraged, it was in fact permitted to become a Mason, as long as certain conditions were met. 

Then, at the end of those seven years, these Catholics were suddenly informed that joining the Masons was actually still forbidden under pain of excommunication – and always had been.

That period in history is all but forgotten today. But a survey of Catholic newspapers from the time period offers a glimpse into the confusion that surrounded the subject of Masonry in the American Catholic world 50 years ago.

Changes anticipated: 1971-1974

While work was underway on the revised Code of Canon Law in Rome in the early 1970s, it became clear that there was widespread anticipation that the Church would soon change her teaching on Catholic participation in Freemasonry. 

In August 1971, National Catholic News Service – the news service of the U.S. bishops – issued a lengthy report which predicted that the Church would soon modify her teaching on the matter. 

Headlined, “Catholic-Masonic Relations Enter Friendly New Era,” the report included commentary from leading experts in Rome, including Fr. Jean Beyer, SJ – Dean of Faculty of Canon Law at the Gregorian University in Rome and a consultor to the Vatican Commission for the Revision of the Code of Canon Law. The syndicated story ran in official diocesan newspapers throughout the nation. 

The Catholic Transcript (newspaper of the Archdiocese of Hartford), August 20, 1971, page 9. Scan via Catholic News Archive, public domain.

Two years later, in June 1973, National Catholic News Service again reported that Church officials were expecting and planning for a change in Church teaching. 

The article, headlined “Church ban on Freemasonry expected to be relaxed,” revealed that the Catholic Bishops of England and Wales had sent letters to all priests in their country, informing them that some “relaxation” in the ban on Freemasonry was expected soon. 

According to the letter from the English hierarchy, “it seems probable that each national bishops’ conference will be left to decide whether Masons will have to resign membership in being received into the Church, and also whether requests from laymen [to] join the Masons may be granted.”

The National Catholic News Service (by the US Bishops Conference), June 27, 1973, wire copy page 1. Scan via Catholic News Archive, public domain.

This news was widely printed in official diocesan newspapers throughout the country and continued to be discussed in newspapers and clerical journals between the summer of 1973 and spring 1974.

The growing consensus — as promoted by the U.S. bishops’ news service — was that the old prohibition would soon be changed.

The St. Louis Review (newspaper of the Archdiocese of St. Louis), December 7, 1973, page 9. Scan via Catholic News Archive, public domain.

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Note regarding the main image: it was found at this site and is obviously taken more recently than the 1970″s!!

Ecclesiastical Freemasonry by Fr Paul Kramer

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This rather long video may prove enlightening for some. Fr Kramer is the distinguished author of several books on Fatima and The Crisis, although he unfortunately adopted the sedevacantist position after the abdication of Pope Benedict. Nevertheless, Fr Kramer is very knowledgable on the topic of Freemasonry and this lecture may shed some light on that very dark tool of anti-Christ. If the video can’t be accessed directly, then please try this link:

For those who would like to hear more from Fr Kramer, here is a podcast interview between that priest and Fr Dave Nix from 2022.

Freemasons at Fatima in the 1920’s

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From “fatima in twilight” by Mark fellows

“Many of the visitors to Cova da Iria also visited Aljustrel to talk to, or pray with, or plead intercession from the three seers. Although the apparitions had stopped, the events at Fatima had acquired a momentum of their own. The attraction increased over the years, despite violent attacks in the Masonic press, the presence of armed troops at Cova da Iria, and the fact that within four years of the last apparition, none of the little seers lived at Fatima anymore.

“Back at Lisbon, Freemason and Editor-In-Chief of ‘O Seculo’, Avelino de Almeida, was raked over the coals by his fellow leftists for daring to report the miracle of the sun as it actually occurred. It was thought that such a public concession to reality only encouraged the forces of reaction, and consequently imperiled the revolutionary cause in Portugal. In Ourem, no one needed to instruct Arturo Santos (“the Tinsmith”) about the party line. To his dying day he denied that anything miraculous had ever occurred at Cova da Iria – although he never set foot there. On October 23, 1917, however, some of his henchmen did.

“The Tinsmith’s agents were joined by members of the Grand Orient Lodge of Santarem (about forty miles south of Fatima). Under cover of darkness they entered Cova da Iria to cut down the holm oak tree, and remove the rustic wooden arch built over it, from which hung lanterns perpetually lit in honor of the heavenly Lady. They also took a table and the small altar resting on it, and an image of the Blessed Virgin. The carload of booty was driven to Santarem, where the thieves displayed the stolen items the next day. For a small fee, one could view the arch and a small hatcheted tree, and receive a Masonic harangue on medieval superstition. That night the Freemasons staged a public procession with their display, “singing blasphemous litanies to the accompaniment of drums.

“Adding salt to the wound was the fact that the Portuguese government had outlawed Catholic religious processions. The Masonic “procession” was so fanatical in its anti-Catholicism that even the secular press was critical of the event. On the morning of October 24 Maria Carreira hurried to Cova da Iria. Her heart sunk when she saw the arch and lanterns missing, then rose when she saw the little stump of the holm oak tree still sticking up out of the ground. The vandals had cut down the wrong tree.

“Lucy went to investigate too. “I then asked Our Lady to forgive these poor men,” she wrote in her Second memoir,” and I prayed for their conversion.” The next ploy of the “poor men” was to post armed cavalry around Cova da Iria to intimidate pilgrims. The crowds only seemed to increase.

“Publicly dismissing the apparitions at Fatima as a “shameful spectacle staged as a ridiculous comedy” ( as one hyperventilating Brother put it), an implacable hatred of the one true God gave Freemasonry no rest. Truth too tell, the revolution in Portugal was menaced. But it was not, as the Masons supposed, the dark plotting of the Jesuits or Portuguese clerics that would stall the force of progress. Most clergy maintained a prudent silence regarding the apparitions, and more than a few were downright skeptical. Rather, it was the prayers, penances and sacrifices inspired by the beautiful Lady at Cova da Iria that posed the real threat to Masonic authority. Before this onslaught of religious fervour Freemasonry could only sputter impotently, and flee.

“On December 8, 1917, the Blessed Virgin began to grind Her heal on the spiteful head of the revolution. Portugal’s government was overthrown by one of its own, a Freemason named Sidonio Pais. The day after his coup d’etat Pais allowed the Portuguese bishops to return from exile. Two weeks later he allowed worship in the churches the revolution had confiscated from the Church. Diplomatic relations with the Vatican were reopened, and other measures were taken to allow freedom of worship in Catholic Portugal. Obviously Pais was no ordinary Freemason. He knew that by his actions he was signing his own death warrant. It is said he felt protected by the Blessed Virgin, and even received “encouraging visions” from Her. Had he lived long enough, it is likely he would have converted. But he had made himself a marked man, and he knew the Masonic reputation for vengeance was justified.

“Nevertheless, Pais persisted. His efforts to allow the Jesuits to re-enter Portugal were rewarded by an assassination attempt. Undaunted, Pais had the police raid the Masonic headquarters in Lisbon. On December 14, 1918, he attended Mass for fallen Portuguese soldiers. Afterwards, he was gunned down at a train station in Lisbon. He died there, his body riddled with bullets, a crucifix resting on his bloody chest.

It was another glorious victory for the champions of liberty, equality, and fraternity. Yet Freemasonry had only killed a messenger; they were powerless against the message, and they knew it. Their days were numbered.”

from fatima in twilight by mark fellows. Marmion publications, niagra falls. 2003.

Masons involved in the Synod on Synodality

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Well, I guess it’s not really surprising.

During Australia’s Plenary Council process, there were lapsed Catholics, alphabet-soup Catholics, Protestants, Moslems, and even atheists all giving their two-cents’ worth on the Church. So it stands to reason that somewhere along the line, Freemasons would want to have some input into the Church’s future – especially seeing as so many of them occupy important positions in the hierarchy these days.

From FSSPX NEWS:

“The Conference of Bishops of the Philippines (CBCP) has just issued a statement reminding the faithful of the impossibility of a Catholic being a part of Freemasonry. A welcome clarification, as it appears that Freemasons in the archipelago had been participating in the preparatory work for the Synod on Synodality.

The declaration of the Filipino bishops is part of the context of the synod organized in the archipelago, as everywhere else in the world. The debate is indeed more and more lively on the participation of “Catholic Freemasons” in synodal consultations.

“We thought that the teachings of the Catholic Church on the matter had evolved. Since several participants in the Synod are Freemasons, we thought that the Church had relaxed its rules on joining Masonry and participating in activities of the Catholic Church,” explains Gloria Buencamino.

For this parishioner from Quezon City, the episcopal development is surprising, because in some churches, “Catholic Freemasons help the priest distribute communion; in our parish alone we have two and they were delegated to the Synod on Synodality. They are good and pious Catholics,” she says.

“Good and pious Catholics?”

Well, of course they are. At least Freemasons believe in the Real Presence, (albeit only in order to profane the Lord) which is more than can be said for the majority of non-Mason Catholics.

As usual, the Masons themselves have no problem with Church membership: it is only the Catholics who are bigoted and exclusive. From the article:

… Frank Munez hosts a lodge in Manila. For this 61-year-old Mason, there is no opposition between Catholicism and Masonry: “It is above all a fraternal community. What’s wrong with that? We have nothing against God, in fact, we encourage our members to be men of faith and good citizens,” he told Ucanews.

One further reason why Masons want to be involved in the Synod? I’ll give you a clue. It rhymes with Synodality. (And here’s what I wrote about it a little while ago)

How does a prelate become a Freemason?

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From ‘Unholy Craft’by Arnaud de Lassus

In Italy, in 1999, a book was published anonymously entitled Via col vento in Vaticano and, according to the editor the French version, “would have come from a group of high-ranking Vatican dignitaries who chose to break the law of silence.”

It is a collective work describing various disorders affecting the Holy See. The chapters are not all of equal value and some call for serious reservations. Chapter 18, The Smoke of Satan in the Vatican, deals with Freemasonry and, in four very interesting pages, explains the process used to entice prelates to affiliate to the craft.

There is a real novitiate for recruiting ecclesiastics to the Masonic order. Among ecclesiastics, there is a certain category of men in which Masonry seeks possible collaborators; these must combine certain gifts: keen intelligence, a great desire for advancement, ambition, quickness to understand and to pretend to understand nothing, willingness to serve and, if necessary, a good physical presence and a pleasing face.

When a young ecclesiastic meets these criteria … it remains only to engage him by titillating his pride.

The author insists on the secrecy of the operation which is a consideration of its success:

In this first phase it is absolutely necessary that the designated candidate remains in total ignorance of what is being set up around him. The Masonic technique requires to be revealed progressively, so that the associate discovers the secret society’s aims only gradually, as the superiors think fit.

The first contact is made as naturally as possible. An invitation to an accomodating embassy for a national festival, unexpectedly meeting someone who claims to be delighted to have met him, a prelate who asks him for something and shows his gratitude. Then comes the phase of compliments and flattery: What a treasure, such kindness, such keen intelligence … You deserve better – you are wasting your time. Why don’t we address each other less formally? …. Then one enters the phase of future prospects: I know such a prelate, such a cardinal, such an ambassador or such a minister ….I’ll willingly put in a word for you; I’ll say you are someone who deserves higher responsibilities ….

At this stage, the proposer immediately realises whether the interested party has taken the bait.

The process thus described will continue for several years, always in secret.

Gradually, the promises made are fulfilled. The pre-selected candidate notes that these were not in vain and believes it is his duty to be grateful to the friend whom he regards as his benefactor. During this time, his career progresses very smoothly without encountering any difficulties. Brilliant prospects in the service of the Church appear before him and he begins to see a position which would suit him rather well.

Then, when fired with ambition and vanity, the naive prelate has at hand the evidence of his effortless advancement, which he hasn’t yet fully grasped, and when other promotion to higher levels still beckon – it is at this stage that the explanatory phase arrives.

The recruiters explain to the candidate that:

  • If he has attained such wonderful positions, it is thanks to the discrete support of the Masonic order and its friends
  • He is free to continue to collaborate with this order, which will ensure his advancement continues.

In this very delicate phase, it is up to the prelate, in crisis, to decide which choice to make.

The desire to continue to advance, the excitement of knowing one is being introduced into the Masonic group, the fear of unavoidable revelations should he refuse to join, or, on the contrary, the vacuum he can already feel around him, the fraternal exhortation of some dignitary to go ahead, as he himself has done formerly: In a word, all this ends up convincing the prelate to follow the path mapped out for him by others without him being aware of it.

The higher one’s position, the more likely one is likely to be gripped by the fear of losing the high position one has attained. One abyss opens after another. One seeks to justify oneself.

Many prelates, thus compromised, end up by giving in and become members of the Masonic apparatus and under obligation to obey its instructions.

Thus, once infiltrated into his ecclesiastical setting, the brave Masonic novice’s first duty is to maintain his credibility by keeping his promises and, if necessary, to cast, as poseurs and hypocrites, the prelates of the place he has infiltrated.

Skilfully hooked, the new Freemason then becomes a pawn in the secret lodge’s sphere of action and is added to the others already there. His rise can now continue unabated towards the top with the help of other ‘brothers.’

This is a remarkable process, founded on secrecy, which can easily last ten years and which can be implemented by disciplined, well trained …. and patient personnel. It is undoubtedly used not only in the Curia, but just as much in the secular and ecclesiastical worlds.

Two general remarks can be made following the observations which have been made on Masonic infiltration within the Curia and on the process used for that purpose.

The presence of Freemasons in key positions in the Church explains to a great extent the doctrinal and disciplinary deviations of these last forty years. It is particularly clear in the case of liturgical reform.

As for the process that is used to produce Masonic prelates, it is very important to understand it and to make it known, because it obviously loses its effectiveness when it is known.

In conclusion, let us remain alert to the Masonic question. It is one of the keys to the current crisis, political as well as religious and, as Pope Leo XIII said in the encyclical Humanum genus,it is necessary ‘to tear away the mask from Freemasonry and to let it be seen as it really is.‘

Let us remain alert and keep faith in the Church; we know that the gates of hell will not prevail against Her.

The Church is truly a supernatural society, truly holy. The Mystical Body of Christ, the Bride of Christ, of unblemished fidelity, in the image of the Virgin Mary. Without exception, throughout the centuries, and until the end of the world, ‘She is Jesus Christ, given and communicated. That and nothing else.’

Pope Francis on the spot over Freemasonry

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Italian Freemasons have said they will appeal to Pope Francis for support, after the local Catholic bishop re-iterated the Catholic Church’s condemnation on Freemasonry in light of renewed Masonic activity in the area.

Local Freemasons in the Archdiocese of Chieti-Vasto in eastern Italy have declared that they will seek “rapid and active intervention” from Pope Francis, after Archbishop Bruno Forte reminded the archdiocese of the Catholic Church’s strict ban on participating in Masonic activities.

On February 7, Forte issued a letter to his archdiocese in which he presented the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith’s (CDF) 1983 document on Masonry. 

Forte stated that: “the condemnation of Freemasonry remains unchanged; second, Catholics who belong to a lodge are in a state of grave sin and cannot take communion; third, no exceptions are allowed.”

His letter was prompted by renewed, public activities organized by Masons of the Sovereign Arabian Phoenix lodge in Forte’s archdiocese, including a conference at the Iacone hotel on “Francesco d’Assisi: mysticism or esotericism?”

Many locals protested the conference, calling the Masons “absolute evil.” The venerable master Ginevra Di Nicola stated that the protests represented “social hatred.” Di Nicola added that the Masons would “invite Bruno Forte to our next meeting.” 

“We are not a religious creed but we believe in a superior being whom we call the ‘great architect of the universe’ who created everything,” said Di Nicola. “We are a brotherhood that embraces every religious belief.”

Days later, Forte – who has led the archdiocese since 2004 – issued his letter which consisted chiefly of the text of the CDF’s 1983 document. That text – signed by then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger and approved by Pope John Paul II – reads:

Therefore, the Church’s negative judgment regarding Masonic associations remains unchanged, since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with Church doctrine and therefore membership in them remains forbidden. The faithful who belong to Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and cannot access Holy Communion.

The CDF’s ruling further adds that local bishops cannot issue documents which in some way differ from the firm line presented by the CDF regarding the Catholic Church’s relationship with Masonry. “It is not for local ecclesiastical authorities to pronounce on the nature of Masonic associations with a judgment that implies derogation from the above, and this is in line with the Declaration of this Holy Congregation of February 17, 1981.”

In response, the Masonic lodge declared that they would appeal to Pope Francis to intercede on their behalf against Forte. “We will turn to Pope Francis to ask for his swift and proactive intervention in this diatribe, which damages our honorability and, on balance, threatens our security,” Di Nicola told local news.

The Mason also directly quoted from Pope Francis’ 2020 encyclical Fratelli Tutti, citing paragraph 46: “It must be recognized that fanaticisms that lead to the destruction of others also have religious people as protagonists, not excluding Christians, who may participate in networks of verbal violence.”

Such a tactic is noteworthy: Francis’ Fratelli Tutti promotes a “Universal Brotherhood” and also links back to his controversial 2019 Abu Dhabi document on Human Fraternity. Both texts have been widely criticized by Catholics since their publication. Former Papal Nuncio to the U.S. Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò notably wrote that Francis’s concept of fraternity was “theologically blasphemous.”

A prominently vocal German priest also described the text as being interwoven with “Masonic” ideology. Francis’s push for religions to be on an equal footing, Father Frank Unterhalt noted was a key element of Masonic goals:

The striving for universal ecumenism of religions has always been a concern of Freemasonry on the way to its actual goal, namely to bring about the breakthrough of that self-constructed religion in which all human beings are supposedly in agreement.

Indeed, following Fratelli Tutti’s publication, it was welcomed by the Masonic Lodge of Spain, who stated it was “the latest encyclical” of Pope Francis in which he “embraces the Universal Fraternity, the great principle of Modern Freemasonry.”

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The link between Freemasonry and sodomy.

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The video below came from this Bitchute account and shows the famous ex-Mason, Bill Schnoebelen, speaking about the connection between Freemasonry and sodomy. Although disturbing, it highlights the obsession of many occult-masters with trying to access hidden knowledge via the depraved act of sodomising children. As the video mentions, this practise was a favourite habit of the evil magician, Aleister Crowley.

As unpleasant as it is to consider, this link may explain the parallel rise of both sodomites and Masons within the Catholic Church.

Little-known picture reveals A LOT about John XXIII

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Having hitherto used only a free, online version of Peter Hebblethwaite’s biography “Pope John XXIII”, it was quite a treat to finally find myself with a used hardcopy version. Although it took some months for it to arrive from the States, it was well worth the wait.

A casual initial flip through the book yielded this very revealing photograph, taken in 1901. It shows a group of seminarians, including the future Pope John XXIII, Angelo Roncalli. Roncalli is in the back row, on the extreme right.

As can be seen in the main image, one of the seminarians was photographed with his hand inside his cassock – a very intentional gesture designed, surely, to indicate this young man’s Masonic connections.

To the right of this potential priest is Angelo Roncalli, (circled in red) with his hand on the shoulder of the Mason.

The photograph’s caption reads, “Angelo’s ‘year’ at the Roman seminary, 1901; he is at the right hand end of the back row.”

This ‘year’ was Roncalli’s first year of theology, at the age of nineteen. Awarded a scholarship, he had relocated to Rome to continue his studies for the priesthood. Roncalli had entered the minor seminary at the age of twelve, receiving the tonsure in 1895.

When time permits, I will research the names of Roncalli’s classmates and promise to keep you posted. Who knows? I may even get my book on John XXII finished one day.

(A quick look at ordination dates would indicate that this is not Roncalli’s friend, Ernesto Buonaiuti, who was later excommunicated for his extreme Modernism.)

The parish priest from Davos

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is davos beginning to lose its appeal among the modernists? Vatican News reports.

Parish priest at Davos, Father Kurt Susak, gives his thoughts in an interview with Vatican News:

“Everywhere you hear about crises. The world is somehow in crisis mode. This World Economic Forum would somehow also lose its credibility and legitimacy if this meeting did not now also present solutions that are recognizable to the people and lead to an improvement in the many conflicts and challenges.”

Fr Susak goes on to mention the threat of war, saying that the local church community is praying that the WEF will be successful in providing solutions. Even the non-Catholic churches are praying, in a nightly ecumenical gathering known as “Silence and Prayer”. The shared intention is that “that good decisions might be made for a more just and peaceful world.”

That doesn’t sound terrible. (This does though “You would have to ask a few people now, even young people – I think most people are not that interested in whether there is a woman or a man at the altar and whether he is married or not.”)

The Vatican didn’t send any representatives to Davos this year. As the article mentions, Cardinals Peter Turkson, Michael Czerny and Pietro Parolin, have all attended over the years. (Those three men are regarded as papabile material – which is no doubt, highly coincidental.) Apparently, Bergoglio stated that: “Everything has been said, now act; that’s what it’s all about.”

Has the WEF lost its appeal for Bergoglio? (There are even some murmurs from within the ranks.) Or maybe the Vatican is just too broke to send one of its Cardinals to another fancy shindig. Davos is only 90 minutes from St Gallen – surely one of his men could hit up Davos on the way back from a clandestine meeting?

Father Susak makes a few criticism of the annual Davos event, but those are mainly limited to the infrastructure issues: traffic jams and other disruptions. Price gouging appears to be rampant during the week, as well. He mentions the high cost of security, wondering if the benefits are worth the expense.

To his credit, the article mentions that Father believes “many things are not done transparently …many things are discussed and debated behind closed doors, and that very little ultimately is made public.” However, he also takes the opportunity to fling a few stones at the “conspiracy theorists who “… fuel the resistance against the elite that gathers at the WEF.”

Oh well, he was promising for a while. Needless to say, there is no criticism about the intrinsic problem of the WEF: that it is a group of godless, unelected synarchists, whose members consider themselves to be – and are known as – the elite – and who are well on the way to creating a global dystopia.

Maybe if Fr Susak’s favourite theologian wasn’t Hans von Balthasar, he would be able to think more clearly.

But things aren’t all bad. Fr Susak tells us the Davos event presents a golden opportunity for the school children: they get to ski. “This always gives the students a great deal of pleasure,” he says, going on to remind us of the economic benefit gained by the small community during the WEF meeting. (Klaus Schwab’s latest comments on pedophilia should mean that “children”, “pleasure” and the WEF are never again mentioned in the same context.)

Anyway, Fr Susak sounds like a naive social justice type, so, who knows? Maybe next year he’ll organise an outreach to the dozens of prostitutes who are shipped in to cater to the overlords during the WEF?

An older interview with Fr Susak tells us a little more about him, though. Last year, when the WEF meeting was online, he explained that the Church has become more involved with the WEF under Pope Francis. No surprises there.

Fr Susak said that visiting Cardinals would stay with him for that week and that they gave lectures and “were involved in the whole thing.” He also mentions that some WEF delegates would attend morning Mass with them. (Why does that thought send give me shivers?)

Susak says that Klaus Schwab has also been to the Vatican to invite Pope Francis to the WEF anniversary. Parolin went instead that year, but then, perhaps he is the more powerful of the two. Sometimes it really does appear that way. Strange how Parolin has been able to keep his nose clean in that Becciu business.

Somewhat naively, Fr Susak talks about his surprise at the interest given to the Church by the WEF. He says delegates from all over the world want to see the priests, and talk to them.

“You could really experience this positive mood towards the church at all levels,” says Susak.

Someone needs to explain to this man that the WEF needs the Church both to legitimise its devious globalist agenda and as a vehicle for implementing that same agenda. We have the structure, they have the ideology. Talk about a marriage made in hell.

Good luck to you, Fr Susak. Whether you are an alpine wolf in sheep’s clothing or just a useful idiot, let’s pray that you wake up to the sublimity of your vocation and start to take your job seriously. Oh – and an exorcism of downtown Davos should be on your to-do list for this week.

Hungarian Bishop: Masons & Moslems are working together to destroy Christianity

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This article comes from the Hungarian outlet Magyar Jelen. interview by Tamás Horváth. English translation by Google translate.

On the occasion of Christmas, we made a big interview with Dr. Gyula Márfi, archbishop emeritus of Veszprém, who – since he was forced to leave the city of the kings in August – spends the holidays in Szombathely again after many years. Among other things, the 79-year-old retired bishop talks about the mission of the Hungarians; about the European Union denying its Christian roots; on migration; on the cooperation of Freemasons and Muslims; about the Kalergi plan; on the unconstitutional Hungarian abortion law; he talked about LGBTQ and how what is going on in the German Catholic Church is practically anti-Christ. He also expressed his opinion on the renovation of the cathedral in Veszprém; he recalled the Christmases of his childhood; and he also told me when he decided to enter the church. The big interview of Tamás Horváth.

– After how many years do you spend Christmas again in Szombathely?

“ Twenty-seven. ” In 1995 I moved from Szombathely to Eger, where I was an auxiliary bishop for two years, and in 1997 I was appointed Archbishop of Veszprém by Saint II. Pope John Paul. I retired in 2019, but as archbishop emeritus I continued to live in the city of queens – until this August, when I unfortunately had to leave for known reasons.

But I’m not complaining, I have a very good place in Szombathely. Bishop Székely welcomed me with friendship.

– What does Christmas mean to you? What childhood memories do you have, how did you and your family celebrate the birth of Christ?

– I come from a religious family, we lived in a small village in Zala County, Pördefölde. As far as I know, it currently has 81 inhabitants, at that time it was not much more. The nearest church was in the neighboring settlement, Páka – five kilometers as the crow flies – but we still went to mass every Sunday.

However – perhaps for understandable reasons – we did not go to Advent morning mass, so I only attended rorata for the first time when I was in the seventh grade, when I moved to Páka to complete the last two classes of elementary school.

Anyway, I have very good and defining memories of Christmas, I think back with a warm heart to the times when my parents and brother and I celebrated as a family.

– How was it different to experience Christmas under socialism than later, after the system change?

– The intensity of the celebration did not change much after 1989, because even then Christmas was very important to us. We knew that the state did not sympathize with the churches, if it could, it would eliminate all religions. Because of this, my parents insisted even more on Christianity and its holidays. My brother and I were raised to do the same, which resulted in:

we both lived the Catholic faith wholeheartedly.

However, later, when I was in the seventh or eighth grade, when I started to grow up, the question arose in me, whether the atheists are right?

I didn’t dare to bring up these fears to my parents – who were smart but uneducated peasants – and not to the priests either, so I started formulating various arguments about God. I tried to prove that Jesus is not just a holy idea, but a tangible reality. It is not just a myth as atheists teach.

Perhaps this is precisely why I developed a kind of creativity that would not have happened if there were people around me who would answer all my questions. And let’s not forget that we lived in an atheistic system, so as Christians we had to look behind things and think. There is good in every bad, as they say.

– When did you first realize that you wanted to be a priest?

“ About when I was in seventh or eighth grade. ” As I listened to the sermons of the spiritual fathers, I wondered if I could speak like that, could I also say Mass so beautifully? After that, my profession gradually developed.

In a strange way, the problem was that my brother also became a priest, and at one time I felt that I had no vocation of my own, that I was following my brother because I was independent.

Then when it dawned on me that there were also relatives among Jesus’ apostles – Peter and András, James and John must have been close brothers; and the younger Jakab and Tádé Júdás are probably brothers or cousins ​​- then I was reassured that I could have the same profession as my brother.

Why God chooses two is his secret.

“ Was there a time when he wavered?”

“ Not really. ” It can be said that, apart from the aforementioned adolescent uncertainty and doubts, my path was a straight line, a steady path to the altar. There were no deviations in it.

The possibility of leaving the seminary never occurred to me. I went to high school in Pannonhalma, and my profession only got stronger there.

“ Let’s go back to Christmas a bit. ” In his previous writings and interviews, he quite often criticized the current European Union and the zeitgeist prevailing in the Western world. How do you see Christmas in Europe in 2022?

“  I can’t judge this exactly, because I don’t know the conditions that well.” However, from what I hear and read, the situation seems catastrophic. In many places, they try to make people forget the word Christmas itself, and they only talk about holidays.

The Christmas tree was already removed from the Brussels City Hall 8-10 years ago, on the grounds that they did not want to offend the sensibilities of Muslims.

However, this is a lie: Christmas trees are also erected in Istanbul and in other parts of the Islamic world. Jesus as a prophet is also respected by Muslims, and according to Islam, it is not a sin to celebrate someone’s birthday.

One of the most striking signs of the European Union’s anti-Christianity is that its constitution did not mention Europe’s Christian roots. They write about Greco-Roman traditions and the Enlightenment, but not about Christianity. Yet ancient culture and art survived thanks to Christians: the writings of Virgil, Tacitus, Homer and others were copied by monks in the depths of their cells.

Without Christianity, we would not be able to read many ancient authors today.

But we can also talk about the fact that the European Commission published a calendar in 2016 in which the holidays of the world’s major religions were entered – even the Sikh religion, which is a relatively small community, a mixed religion between Hinduism and Islam. However, if you turn to December 25, what do you find? Practically nothing. That’s all it says: “A good friend shares your joys and your preoccupations.” I don’t know what this means exactly, but I do know that Christmas was deliberately left out of the significant days.

Let me mention two more examples. A few years ago, in England – which is no longer the EU, but undoubtedly part of the Christian European cultural circle – the Anglican Church wanted to sell a short film of a few minutes promoting Christianity to the national TV channels. None of them accepted.

XVI. At that time, Pope Benedict was not allowed to perform at the State University of Rome, saying that it was not a church, but a secular institution.

So what? I ask. If we were to think like that, then no one would be able to enter St. Peter’s Basilica, only those who can prove that they have been baptized and confirmed.

– Do you think it is conscious that in Europe they want to push Christianity into the background, ad absurdum to destroy it?

“ He’s conscious. ” The goal of the Freemasons is to “liberate” Europe from Christianity. To achieve this, they are willing to use all means, using their lobbying power they have also wormed their way into the leaders of the union.

In my opinion, Muslims are also being called in to remove Christ and Christianity from Europe. In doing so, however, they ultimately destroy themselves, because Islam will never accept their liberal principles.

It is practically the same situation as it was in the Savior’s time, when the scribes and Pharisees collaborated with their mortal enemy, Pontius Pilate, to get Jesus out of the way.

Today, Freemasons and Muslims are joining forces to make Christianity disappear from Europe.

But this is not a finished game yet, I hope that their plan will not be successful.

– What can we Hungarians do to protect Christianity?

“ We have to hold on to our faith very strongly. ” Padre Pio has a prediction that Hungary is a cage from which a beautiful bird will fly out, bringing blessings to the whole world.

I don’t think it’s out of the question that this will happen.

Not because we Hungarians are better than everyone else, but because God often chooses the little ones to accomplish something big through them.

See, the Guadeloupe seer Juan Diego Cuauhtlatoatzin was also a simple Indian peasant. He was baptized with his wife only four years before he had his vision. At first the bishop didn’t believe him either, saying that Our Lady would certainly not appear to such an unfortunate shepherd, but at least to a nun. ( laughs )

And in Fatima and Lourdes, small children had visions of the Virgin Mary, so it cannot be ruled out that we, Hungarians, will also have a role in preserving Christianity in Europe. But for this we have to take faith seriously, because it is possible to become unworthy of any mission.

– Christian Europe can also be protected with physical means, for example by not allowing those who come to our borders illegally. When, during the migration crisis of 2015, the Hungarian government started to build the border fence (which László Toroczkai – then as the mayor of Ásotthalom – had advocated years earlier), both domestic and foreign liberals shouted that building walls was not humane, and anyway a self-professed Christian accepts everyone. What does an archbishop say about this?

– At the time, I had a rather harsh sentence for this: we must love wolves too – since they too were created by the Good Lord – but not in sheep’s clothing.

The same is true for Muslims. We love them and support their countries as much as we can.

However, this does not mean that we should invite them into Europe and let them Islamize the continent.

They were here in Hungary for 150 years, we know how much destruction they caused. We Hungarians still carry the memory of this in our genes to some extent.

–  In your opinion, what poses a greater threat to Europe and Hungary at the moment: Islamization and immigration, or LGBTQ and woke?

– This is difficult to decide, but if a sequence must be established, it is the latter. This loose understanding brackets the foundations of Catholic morality.

And although as Christians we should not condemn homosexuals, lesbians, bisexuals, or transgender people,

creating a cult for them is a mortal sin, which also goes against the laws of nature.

The legalization of same-sex “marriage” is also considered a capital crime, and I regret to see that it has already happened in most European countries.

In relation to the LGBTQ issue, we cannot forget the rights of children either. On the one hand, they should not be allowed to be confused about their gender identity and orientation through the media, advertising and education, and on the other hand, they have the right to a mother and a father.

– According to Catholic teaching, abortion is also a mortal sin, and although the Basic Law in Hungary already protects the fetus from conception, our abortion law is considered liberal even in European terms. Don’t you think this is controversial?

“ Of course. “

The current abortion law is unconstitutional, but the Constitutional Court has not yet dared to say so.

The problem is that the majority of the Hungarian people are pro-abortion, so if the government tightened it, it would lose the election.

However, it is welcome that mothers now have to listen to their child’s heartbeat. The ultra-liberals protested vehemently against this as well, so the government is not in an easy situation.

– On the other hand, I see that the heart rate regulation was relatively easily “swallowed” by people. It is true that there was a little excitement, but it did not start a serious avalanche. Is it not possible that after a while the Hungarian society would come to terms with the tightening of abortion?

“ It’s possible that he would come to terms with time, yes. ” I pray that it will be so. Also, for my part, I also offer the crosses of old age. I know many of my colleagues do the same.

– You obviously represent the teachings of the Catholic Church in the social topics we have discussed so far. How is it possible that, say, the German Catholic Church, which also belongs to the Pope of Rome, preaches the exact opposite of the ideas you express, for example, on the issue of LGBTQ?

“ I don’t understand that either, it can’t be proven. “

Five or six years before that, I said three masses in Hungarian for Hungarians in and around Stuttgart. I explained the arguments that prove the resurrection of Jesus, and I talked a little about heaven and the similes found in the Bible. After one of the Masses, Father Tempfli, the then Hungarian pastor in Stuttgart, came to me and thanked me for touching on these topics, saying that no one in Germany talks about them anymore.

The situation of the German church is truly catastrophic. According to them, it is not important whether Jesus was really born or not, the point is that “he should be born in you!”. Don’t ask if he rose from the dead or not, “may he rise in you!”. Don’t care if there is heaven or not, the point is “create it around you!”

This is all absurd.

A significant number of German Catholic priests now bless same-sex marriages as well as cohabitation and cohabitation relationships.

This is no longer Christianity, it is anti-Christ.

Three years ago, Rome finally ruled that Catholic priests are forbidden to bless homosexual couples. At that time, I was still visited by a German newspaper, so I learned about the protest that the decision had caused among German Catholics.

It is very sad what is happening in Germany. I don’t want to hurt them, but somehow they always fall from one side of the horse to the other. They went from Hitler and National Socialism to cosmopolitan globalism. No more German, French, Hungarian, Italian, only European.

– If the national question has already been mentioned: it is an eternal dilemma, which is more important, national or religious affiliation?

– I am primarily a Catholic, but I also stick to my Hungarianness, without being a chauvinist.

I am Hungarian, but I also respect other peoples. In Europe, diversity is needed in addition to unity, but there is no need for multiculturalism!

They talk about mixing the different species according to the Kalergi plan. But I ask, what comes out of this? A mass of no color at most.

My painter friend Győző Somogyi – I am hitting my belly now – has twenty-five different colors and shades of paint. If you mix them all up, you won’t be able to paint a colorful picture.

In a multicultural, mixed society, the individual loses his own identity, sense of identity, culture, faith, language, practically everything. It becomes easy to manipulate, which is ideal for the big capitalists of the world, who want to turn the whole Earth into a huge collective farm, where there are no ethnic, national and religious identities, only obedient workers and consumers manufactured according to standards.

– We started our interview with the fact that you are spending Christmas again in Szombathely after twenty-seven years. The main reason for this was that he was critical of the renovation plans of the Veszprém cathedral, which is why he had to leave the city of the queens. How do you see the situation in Veszprém afterwards?

–  I can only pray for the Diocese of Veszprém, for some kind of consensus to be formed between the faithful and the archbishop, for peace to be restored. I don’t hold grudges against anyone in my heart, but I would regret it if the stained glass window of St. Michael – which was made by Bertalan Badalik, the bishop exiled by the communists – disappeared from the cathedral in Veszprém.

Otherwise, I’ll say it again, I feel very comfortable in Szombathely, I previously worked in the bishop’s office here for seventeen years. I have good experiences with the city, but of course I won’t forget the ones in Veszprém either.

– What is your message to the Hungarians on the occasion of Christmas?

–  I wish you all a very Merry Christmas and a blessed New Year! I pray especially for our uncertain compatriots, for those who have not yet decided what to believe. I wish them to approach Christ and Christianity.

May God’s blessing help all Hungarians!